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  • edited October 2018
    Sounds like a great plan Kevin, If building the structures is what makes you happiest you should spend your time enjoying what you love.

    Karl.A
  • Kevin, there's freedom in coming to a tough decision together.
  • eric-it's milque toast. if yer gonna bash me, at least do it right. :)
    karl-i am in 100% agreement
    george-you're absolutely right. feels like a great weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
  • I wasn't trying to bash you. I was attempting at humor. Thus my spelling.
  • Dioramas on a shelf is not a bad compromise. Keep on building!! Phil
  • i have a contractor here that's busy hanging drywall. i expect I'll be able to get back to the workbench in a couple of weeks, once the room has been repainted.
  • That's great news Kevin.

    Karl.A
  • Glad to hear. Looking forward to more posts.
  • edited October 2018
    Kevin,

    Kevin,

    A shelf/ wall layout is a great idea. Some of the finest most convincing modeling I have seen is by a modeler (retired art teacher) who hails from Indiana, Tom Johnson. He works and re-woks a scene until he he gets it just right. The way he blends his scenery on a one foot deep shelf into a wall mural is awesome. Tons to be learned by finding and following his concepts.

    One of Toms interesting ideas is to use vehicles but no figures in his scenes. His idea is how many times driving through a small town do you see people out and about. I guess that works for him but I am not sure it works for our type of modeling where we are focused on the functioning structure in addition to the setting or even as part of the setting.

    Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
  • i followed the construction of jim six's layout a few years ago, and his layout (I believe) is a "sister" layout of tom johnson's. some great modeling
  • edited October 2018
    Kevin,

    Yes, I couldn't agree more. Definitely two great modelers. They understand both the big picture as well as the small details that make model railroading so interesting.

    Did you ever have a chance to visit the Batavia Club layout in the upstairs gym in downtown Batavia before the club lost it's lease? That was a layout that changed the focus of model railroading from just running trains in circles on plywood central to operating like a real railroad in a sceniced environment often times on a single track mainline. I hardly ever missed on of their open houses.

    Later, Dave
  • they were both granger layouts as i recall. they might have even modeled the same prototype, but i'm not sure about that.
  • opened another wall and found moldy drywall. u.s. waterproofing is coming on 11/5, so all basement restoration is on hold until after that. can't wait to see what this is going to cost......
    somebody shoot me.
  • Sorry to hear, Kevin. Water can definitely be insidious. Best of luck. Your health is priceless.

    George
  • On the positive side Kevin, its good that you found it now before any other work was done that could of hidden it and caused more problems later.
    Spending more time/money to do it right the first time is always quicker/cheaper than doing it twice...
    Good luck on the progress.

    Karl.A
  • Kevin sorry to hear about your misfortune!! I hope nothing important got ruined?

    Jerry
  • just the usual suspects. carpet, drywall.......
  • an update:
    the foundation repair is happening on 12/7, 12/8 the dry waller covers the opening where u.s. waterproofing will be working, 12/9 the painter comes and finishes painting (it's all done except where the wall needs to be patched up), 12/10 the new carpet gets installed, and then i can start putting the room back together. we decided to get new furniture upstairs and move this furniture downstairs, and there's a new 55" flat screen on the way. lo and behold, i have a 2' x 8' space for a display layout. the trains will work, but it will be shadowboxed display layout with On30 locos and rolling stock, O scale structures toward the front, and i will hopefully figure out forced perspective, and have a few h.o. structures toward the rear on a rise to create depth.
    i'm back in the game!! (in a few more weeks)
  • Sounds like a good plan.....just hope all the vendors/contractors conform to the schedule;-))
    Terry
  • yeah, me too....
  • Good news there.
  • edited November 2018
    Kevin,

    Shelf layouts are great. They give you an opportunity to bring your model railroad artistry up close, front and center for everyone to enjoy.
    The master of shelf layouts and blending scenery into backdrops for my money is Tom Johnson. Some of Tom's scenes (below) are just 6" deep.

    <img src="http://www.craftsmankituniversity.com/vanforum/uploads/imageupload/837/AA4MPJMNV9SO.JPG"

    For more photos and ideas Google: tom johnson's model railroad blog

    Here are a few links to his artistry to get you started:

    Tom Johnson's Logansport and Indiana Northern, a part of ...
    hu.pinterest.com/pin/358247345344346504
    Subtle and fantastic level of realism.

    Logansport and Indiana Northern. | Model Railroad Hobbyist ...
    model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/8934?page=2
    Tom had an article on roads into backdrops in the October, 2010 Model Railroader. However, I think there's potential for it to be expanded upon for use in MRH as well. The MRH format may allow for more detail, photos and diagrams than MR was willing to present

    Tom Johnson's Logansport & Indiana Northern | Model ...
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKrbhoNFKF0
    Miracle model railroad track conductivity solution | Model railroad tips | Model Railroad Hobbyist - Duration: 2:13. Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine 76,107 views 2:13

    More Backdrop Artistry: Tom Johnson's Logansport ... - Blogger
    cprailmmsub.blogspot.com/.../more-backdrop-artistry-tom-johnsons.html
    Another master when it comes to backdrops is Tom Johnson. Like Steven Flanigan’s Louisville & Wadley Southern, Tom’s Logansport & Indiana Northern has some of the best backdrops I’ve ever seen. Particularly notable is the convincing way the roads on Tom’s layout meld so perfectly into foreground scenes.

    Hope this helps you get started.

    Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ

  • Somehow the photo I wanted to insert showing Tom's scenery blending into the backdrop was lost.


    Tom Johnsons Logansport Model RR 7

    Later, Dave S.
  • thanks. i was a big fan of jim six and his layout, which i believe is a "sister layout" to tom johnsons. those indiana guys are masters!
    his method of matching his road to the backdrop road is astonishing.
  • Yes they are. What innovators they were along with the others who formed the Batavia, IL modelers group. I couldn't get enough of that layout and the concepts they introduced for building narrow shelves to operate on in a gigantic walk around layout. Wish there were many more photos of that layout in existence.

    Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
  • a week from today the foundation crack gets fixed, the next day the drywaller/painter comes to button up the wall were the crack was fixed, the following monday the new carpet comes......and in anxious anticipation of finally being able to unpack and clean up the work bench cuz it's covered in drywall dust (nice additional weathering....) i realized that the scenery is the next step on o'neill's and i was out of alcohol (not this kind...i'm never out of that):
    SAM


    i stopped at CVS to pick up isopropyl and they had something i've never seen before, and it seemed to be perfect for scenery work, so i picked up two pints of 91% and one of these:

    cool product


    hopefully in a couple of weeks i'll find out how well it works.
  • [hic] duly noted.....
  • the room is back together. everything is done except clearing off the work bench, which had become a storage facility during the rehab of the room. hoping to get back to the bench in a few days.
  • Great news....let the modeling begin
    Terry
  • Excellent Kevin!
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