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The Shipyard at Foss' Landing - Build Log

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  • The Saw Shed (Continued)

    Back to the roofing. We start by constructing the cupola. This is done in exactly the same way as the cupola for the main roof, with carboard substrate/template, prepared timber siding, and the addition of windows with a peeling paint effect. Here are the four sides ready to be glued up.

    231 Saw Shed 20

    Next, some purlins are added to the roof to support the roofing sheets.

    232 Saw Shed 21

    The roofing sheets received some preliminary preparation with ferric chloride in an earlier post. It was now time to “rust” them up. The instructions were a little vague on this point, “apply some rusty coloured chalk powder”. Perhaps there is an assumption that by this stage we are capable of making our own decisions about how to apply this. Fair enough. I chose three colours to create my version of rust: Rembrandt 235.5 (Orange), 370.5 (Permanent Light Red), and 343.5 (Caput Mortem Red).

    234 Saw Shed 22

    My method was as follows:

    - tip a generous pile of each of the three colours, well separated from each other, onto my glass work plate
    - dip a brush into isopropyl alcohol then remove most of the alcohol on a paper towel
    - dip the tip of the brush into the darker colour (343.5) and “blot” onto the roofing sheet.
    - while the sheet is still damp, using a DRY brush, blot generous amounts of both the other colours, then shake/tap/lightly brush off the excess.

    I’ve no idea whether this method is considered “correct”, but it seemed to work for me. Here are the sheets ready for installation.

    235 Saw Shed 23

    The cupola receives its roof first. After installing a couple of support boards between the rafters, the cupola is then fitted. After this picture was taken, I realised I’d done the ridge capping incorrectly and re-did this.

    236 Saw Shed 24

    I then proceeded to attach the roofing sheets to the roof. Again, the instructions were a little scant on this, inviting us to simply glue them on. I wasn’t sure what sort of glue to use for this. As I had successfully used PVA to attach the little cupola roof, that’s what I went with. Big mistake. I had all sorts of problems trying to hold pieces in place while the glue set up but pushed ahead regardless. When I finally got all the main pieces on, I went to install the ridge capping and found that PVA just wasn’t going to cut it. So, I went with epoxy for these pieces. Then I went to take some photos to upload to the build log and that’s when the camera made it very obvious that this roofing job was just not up to par.

    I though on this overnight and decided that a re-work was in order. A day spent on a re-do is nothing compared to forever looking at a botched job! The main issue was how to deconstruct the roofing without destroying the rest of the building. As I’d used epoxy on the ridge capping, I needed to use acetone to de-bond those pieces. That went quite quickly, and they came off without too much trouble at all. To de-bond the main roofing sheets, I used isopropyl alcohol, being as careful as I could not to inadvertently de-bond any major structural components. In the end, it was only the purlins that came away with the roofing sheets. Oh, and the cupola kinda fell apart too. The only real downside was that although I’d successfully removed the roof sheeting, the process also took off most of the rust colouring, so I had to re-do that (using the same process described earlier). Unfortunately, I didn’t take any photos during the deconstruction phase.

    Having re-built the cupola and re-coloured all my roofing sheets, I decided to try a different approach to gluing and broke out the CA gel. I don’t normally like to use CA glue in any form as I have a sensitivity to it and develop flu-like symptoms at the slightest exposure. But, there was not readily apparent alternative, so I put on my big boy pants and got on with it. This time the whole process went quickly and easily and before I knew it, I had the roof back on. The final job was to put some “flashing” around the base of the cupola. The instructions say to use epoxy coloured with some paint as we’ve used earlier on, but I find this a little messy to apply. So, taking a tip from another build log, I decided to use some PVA coloured with a little paint and applied using a syringe. That seemed to work quite well and once dry I “painted” some black and grey chalk powder with a little alcohol to dull down the shine and leave a nice dark grey flashing.

    Here are some pictures of the completed shed.

    237 Saw Shed 25

    238 Saw Shed 26

    239 Saw Shed 27

    240 Saw Shed 28

    241 Saw Shed 29

    The next task will be to start work on the diorama base – another “totally new to me” excursion…

    Grant
  • Grant, nice step by step building photos. As long as the rust color is right for you it does not mater what colors youn start with. I think I looks to be a nice rusty roof. Randy
  • edited February 2023
    Thanks Randy,

    I'll have a bit of an update shortly, but in the meantime, I have a question for the brains trust here. Not being a model railroader, I have no idea of what the "right" answer for this might be. My question is: what should be the spacing between ties for the tracks in one of these kits, and in particular the Shipyard kit? From the small amount of research/reading I've done so far, it looks like 20" between ties (centre to centre) is standard for "main" line, 22" for "branch" line and 24" for "siding". My wild guess would be that for one of Brett's kits, the lines shown would be considered to be "sidings" and therefore 24" between ties.

    Grateful for any and all input on this question.

    I have acquired some scale ties (Mt Albert Scale Lumber) that are correctly scaled at 7" x 9" x 8'6". Mind you, I had to import these from the US, along with some individual track and a track gauge. It seems that no-one in Australia hand lays their tracks these days - at least no one in Australia appears to sell the materials to do so. The cost of postage was more than the total cost of the items that I bought. It was only after I'd placed my order that I noticed that they also offer a jig for making up the ties at the correct spacing (offering three different options). The cost of the jig isn't too bad, but the postage on that alone would have been four times the cost of the jig. Pity I didn't notice it when I was placing the original order!

    Grant
  • edited February 2023
    I'd say the spacing also depends on whether you are laying standard or narrow gauge. Standard would look more uniform in spacing and the distances above sound about right. I acquired a tie jig some time ago and find it very helpful.
  • Grant, I agree with Bryan as to spacing. I made my own tie Jig out of sheet and strip styrene. The strips were thinner than the ties so I could use a strip of masking tape to hold the ties together when I took them out of the jig. Hope this helps. Randy
  • There's a ton of resources on the internet that will provide exactly what you need to space your ties correctly. Commercial jigs are great for sure but I would start with a google search. I know in the past I have downloaded templates that aided in the spacing.
  • Thanks Bryan, Randy and Brett for that advice - application of which follows. This update has a large number of pics, so I'll spread it over three consecutive posts.

    The Diorama Base

    Our attention now turns (temporarily) to the preparation of the diorama base. This starts with a base board of ¾” thick MDF cut to a size of 18” x 17 ½”. The instructions call then for two layers of ½” thick Styrofoam house insulation for a total thickness of 1”. I could only find 30mm thick stuff locally, so went with that instead. This is cut to a basic outline (shown with various measurements in the instruction manual) and glued to the MDF substrate. The instructions suggest using hot glue for this – I went with Elmers Glue-All (looks like a type of PVA) instead and this worked just fine.

    242 Diorama Base 1

    I couldn’t resist checking out the basic “fit” of the various structures at this stage.

    243 Diorama Base 2

    As the top surface of the main dock must be level with the top surface of the main building foundation, I made up a measuring stick to determine the height of some temporary pilings for the dock, taking into account the thickness of the dock main supports.

    244 Diorama Base 3

    A few of these temporary pilings were then spot-glued to the underside of the dock.

    245 Diorama Base 4

    The foundation epoxied in place, following exact placement dimensions from the instruction manual, and the dock test fitted to check alignment of the top surfaces.

    246 Diorama Base 5

    Another quick test fit of the main buildings, and all looks good.

    247 Diorama Base 6

    Some further shaping of the Styrofoam is then called for. This is simply achieved with a sharp snap blade utility knife and includes an initial rough shaping of the “pit” (where the ship under construction will be placed) and a “shelf” to allow the end of the dock to sit flush against the building foundation. After seeking advice from Brett, I also gave the Styrofoam and base board a coat of paint, using some water-based artist’s acrylics.

    248 Diorama Base 7

    More to follow....
  • Continued from previous post...

    We are then instructed to test the fit of the ties we will be using, ensuring they fit flush under the rails extending from the dock, and then to epoxy these down. The ties are not included with the kit, presumably because there is an assumption that anyone building this kit is a model railroader and will have their own supply of these. A quick search on the internet and I was able to locate and procure some HO scale ties (Mount Albert brand). I could have made these from scratch material, but this was a quick and convenient solution. The bigger problem was how to space them correctly, and before that, working out what the correct spacing between ties should be. As noted in an earlier post, a search on the internet revealed that there are three common spacings between centres used (assuming “standard” gauge and not “narrow” gauge) – 20” for “main” line, 22” for “branch” line, and 24” for “sidings”. Guidance from you all indicated that the final choice was up to me, so I decided that the lines in this diorama would be considered “sidings”, and went with 24” between centres. I then drew up a paper template using TurboCAD and attached this to a simple jig using temporary spray adhesive. The jig is simply a scrap piece of 9mm MDF with another piece of scrap wood as a straight edge to but the ends of the ties against.

    249 Diorama Base 8

    Two pieces of very narrow (4mm) double-sided tape are then laid on top of the template to hold the ties in place.

    250 Diorama Base 9

    And the ties are added – in the example below, this is the longer of the two tracks that will run alongside the derrick dock on the left of the diorama. The ties have all been “grained” and cleaned of fuzz. I initially tried staining them first, but quickly discovered that they would not stick well to the double sided tape, nor the masking tape in the next step.

    251 Diorama Base 10

    A piece of high tack masking tape was then laid over the ties and pressed firmly into place.

    252 Diorama Base 11

    The entire template assembly was then removed from the jig by carefully peeling away the template paper from the jig (hence the use of temporary spray adhesive earlier on).

    253 Diorama Base 12

    The excess tape and template paper were then trimmed from the edge, and the remaining template paper carefully removed along with the double-sided tape, leaving the ties attached only to the masking tape and ready for placement.

    254 Diorama Base 13

    Having marked the position of the tracks onto the diorama base, a layer of epoxy was applied to the base and the ties placed in position. I used a 15 min epoxy for this task just to allow myself a little extra time to make sure everything was in the right place.

    255 Diorama Base 14

    Once the epoxy had cured, the masking tape was removed, et voila!

    256 Diorama Base 15

    The ties were given the alcohol and chalk powder treatment. For these I was going for a much more greyish tint to the colouring than used on the main buildings.

    257 Diorama Base 16

    Continued next post...
  • Continued from previous post...

    We are then instructed to complete the preparation of the brick retaining wall and the sea wall, both resin castings. The brick retaining wall comes in two pieces that fit together like a jig-saw puzzle and is designed this way to show the deterioration of the wall. In the picture below, the brick wall has been painted its base colour, while the sea wall (also two pieces) are shown in their unpainted state.

    258 Diorama Base 17

    The process for the brick wall is to paint the casting, then cover the entire casting in plaster, washing off the surface to leave the plaster in the joints. I had some trouble with this as when I washed the plaster of the surface, it also took the paint off. I had done this using acrylic paint (AK paints). After a second failure, I spent some considerable time cleaning as much of the plaster out of the joints as I could before starting again with a lacquer-based paint. Here are the wall pieces after cleaning out.

    259 Diorama Base 18

    And after application of a red-oxide lacquer primer and re-treatment with the plaster.

    260 Diorama Base 19

    The sea wall gets an initial undercoat of AK 11008 (Grimy Grey) - my substitute for Floquil Grime called out in the instructions.

    261 Diorama Base 20

    A random application of three other colours is then applied AK 11031 (Buff), AK 11007 (Rock Grey) and AK 11057 (Vampiric Flesh), these being my substitute choices for Floquil colours called for in the instructions.

    262 Diorama Base 21

    A light wash of alcohol and chalk powders is then applied (I used both 408.3 (Raw Umber) and 411.3 (Burnt Sienna)) for this. These washes produce quite a transformation…

    263 Diorama Base 22

    The walls are then test fitted and a strip of scrap wood used to block them up to just below the surface of the diorama before epoxying into place.

    264 Diorama Base 23

    265 Diorama Base 24

    We now leave the diorama base for the time being and commence construction of the star of the show – the ship!
  • You are right to do all of this test fitting. Better to find out now any adjustments that need to be made.

    I'm a big fan of the brick and stone walls.
  • Great job on the base and track templates. the walls turned out great also.
  • Nice job Grant. You can never have to many pictures Or test fit to many times. After all "measure twice cut once" is a saying for a reason. Randy
  • That's coming along great
  • Looks great! Your doing a wonderful job with this one!

    Jerry
  • The base is coming along nicely, great result on the ties application.
    Stone and brick work came out really well, always amazing how much detail is in Bretts castings, however big or small they are.
    Are you going to give the brick wall a grey wash to dull down the mortar or do you have some other cunning plan in mind?

    Everything is looking great so far, thanks for the update.
  • I myself tend to like a more subtle look on brick mortar....the white seems to steal the scene...the second photo with a wee tad more mortar....maybe a bit of chalk to dull it...
  • I'd like to start this update by thanking all of you who follow along and make suggestions / give advice either publicly or via PM.

    Karl - if you're still there, I sent you a PM in response to your last suggestion but your mail box might be full?

    I'd especially like to acknowledge MitchN, who kindly sent me a PM with a pointer to his discussion thread on making the Ship look like fresh wood - more on that later...

    The ship under construction is an important element in the diorama – after all, it is the reason for the existence of the Shipyard!

    We begin with the Keel, which is provided in the form of three laser cut pieces – one cardboard central piece, and two outer veneers that include some laser scribing. The outer pieces are first given a light wash with AK 11110 (Leather Brown) – my substitute for Floquil Roof Brown – and then stained with chalk and alcohol

    266 Ship 1

    The three pieces are then glued together, and some trim pieces added at stern and stem.

    267 Ship 2

    The keel supports are now added, building them up as needed to keep the keel relatively level.

    268 Ship 3

    The frames (or “ribs” as the instruction manual calls them) are made up of a three part lamination in the same way as the keel. Again, the outer pieces are stained prior to gluing up. The central pieces have a laser engraved number on them, but as this disappears once glued up, I took the sensible precaution of numbering the carrier sheet to ensure later positive identification.

    269 Ship 4

    We then start adding the frames to the keel notches. I had placed four of these when I had the thought that perhaps the ship would look better if the timber looked more like freshly cut wood, rather than the same weathered look of the buildings. While I was thinking on this, I had a PM from MitchN suggesting exactly that and pointing me to a thread where he had done exactly that. So, there was nothing for it but to deconstruct the frames and keel supports and re-visit the colouration, starting with giving all the pieces a light sanding.

    Following the example given in Mitch's thread, the next step was to apply a base coat of AK11004 (Ivory) – my substitute for Floquil Aged (Antique) White.

    After a little trial and error, I then settled on a combination of Rembrandt 231.3 (Golden Ochre) and 234.5 (Raw Sienna) chalks. Once the alcohol/chalk treatment had dried, I went over all the pieces lightly with a steel bristle brush. This removed the excess chalk and ensured that any scratch lines followed what would be the line of the grain.

    Here is the keel ready to go.

    270 Ship 5

    And here are the frames also ready to go.

    271 Ship 6

    During the week, my additional shingles arrived in the post from Brett (at last - not Brett's fault but the mail system is incredibly slow these days!), so I was able to go back and complete the roof on the Yard Master’s Office. This included finishing the shingle laying, capping the roof, adding rafters and rafter tails, and adding the flashing at the rear of the roof where it will adjoin the Warehouse. I didn’t take any in-progress shots of these steps as these are simply repeats of earlier work. I was then able to join the Yard Master’s Office to the Warehouse/Main Building. I also decided to switch my photo background from black to white for these shots.

    272 Yardmasters Office 1

    273 Yardmasters Office 2

    After taking these pictures, I realised that the rafters on the end of the Yard Master’s Office are not quite in the right position, so I may have to some delicate deconstruction/reconstruction tomorrow. I also now need to add the roof hardware (chimneys etc), which will be a challenge in its own right! Any tips on that process would be most welcome!

    Grant
  • I'm enjoying the boat construction.

    Is the square hole in the roof for a chimney? Can the roof be reached from underneath? Shove the chimney in, square it up, use glue on underneath, add flashing to cover edges of shingles.
  • Looking great grant, cant wait to see the boat frame come together, good choice on making the wood look a little newer.

    I sent you a reply to you PM question.
  • Thanks Bryan and Karl. Update to come shortly - I’ve managed the roof hardware successfully. I’ve also discovered a boo-boo that I think I’m going to have to live with. The more eagle eyed will be able to spot this in the previous post’s photos. More to come in the next day or so.
  • edited March 2023
    Looking forward to the update Grant,
    not sure about the boo-boo, I'd have to be REALLY critical to call out anything so tiny that could be improved more than your excellent modelling. The only thing that really stands out is the base layer of the double doors under the fire bell, but that would be a very easy change, if that's even the thing you don't like.

    Apart from that everything is very impressive and well done.
  • Thanks Karl,

    Actually those doors on the warehouse are meant to be steel and rusty, so I'm actually happy with those. Boo-boo revealed at the end of this update - read on.

    With the roofs now complete, I was able to turn my mind to the roof hardware installation. My concern here was that as these parts were nearly all made from white metal (except the chimney, which is resin) and they all had angled bases to sit against the roof, they would be difficult to hold in place while the glue dried. I decided to add a small spigot to the inboard end of each piece, to be inserted into a corresponding hole to be drilled into the roof. My hope was that the spigot would provide the necessary stability while the epoxy set.

    For the four larger diameter pieces, a 1/16” (1.6mm) brass rod could be used for the spigot, however for the two smaller diameter pieces, only a 1mm diameter piece could be used. Drilling these holes into the angled bases without the drill bit deflecting or breaking was the key challenge here. Once again, my little DSPIAE vice proved its worth, holding the piece securely under the drill press.


    Here is one of those smaller pieces being drilled with a 1.1mm bit. (This is the tidy side of my work space!)

    274 Roof Hardware 1

    And a little closer shot.

    275 Roof Hardware 2

    And here are all the pieces drilled and ready to receive their spigots.

    276 Roof Hardware 3

    A short section of brass rod was then epoxied into each of the pieces and locating holes carefully drilled into the roof using a pin vice.

    277 Roof Hardware 4

    The individual pieces were then epoxied in place and the spigots did their job of holding things securely while the glue cured.

    Once the glue had cured, the stack on the Yard Master’s Office had three supporting wires attached. These were made from 0.5mm diameter brass rod, cut to length, blackened, and then epoxied into place. To assist in positioning these, a small “elbow” was bent into the bottom end of each and inserted into a corresponding locating hole drilled into the roof.

    Here are a few overall shots of the roof hardware in place.

    278 Roof Hardware 5

    279 Roof Hardware 6

    At some point I managed to knock off the top of the lightning rod on the top of the cupola, but managed to glue it back in place with some CA gel – still looks a bit wonky in these pics – may have to try and straighten later.

    280 Roof Hardware 7

    281 Roof Hardware 8

    And here is the Yard Master’s Office Roof:

    282 Roof Hardware 9

    283 Roof Hardware 10

    In the above photos, you can see the boo-boo I made when shingling the Yard Master’s Office roof. I only spotted this when I was installing the roof hardware. I knew that I had to use a thinner shingle strip for the final row, but I forgot that I should have still used a normal width row first, and then placed the thinner row on top. The result is an elongated row of shingles (second row below the capping). I briefly considered whether this might be salvageable, but in the end decided that it was too high a risk of doing extensive damage. I will just have to live with this one.

    Looking at the close-up photos, it looks like I need to go back and dull down some of the "pitch" at the base of some of the hardware items too.

    With the roofs finally complete, I can now return to the ship under construction.

    Grant
  • All the little vents and spouts make the roof very interesting.

    Most people will never spot the boo boo when viewing. You will never be able to not see it.
  • That’s quite a building you’ve got there! Great craftsmanship! Thanks for taking the time to post.
  • Very nicely done
  • Coming along nicely. Using a pin in the roof details makes it easier to keep them stable on the roof until the glue dries. You don't need a large diameter rod for the pin. A piece of wire, the kind included in the kits like the brass wire works fine.
  • brownbr said:

    All the little vents and spouts make the roof very interesting.

    Most people will never spot the boo boo when viewing. You will never be able to not see it.

    I agree with Bryan. Nice detail and few will notice the longer shingles.
  • Boy, this sure is coming along nicely.
  • Ahhh, the steel doors make sense now Grant.
    As for the shingles I scoured and never noticed them so not a big deal.

    The next waterfront structure of Brett's you build you'll def have some great experience from this one.
  • Thanks very much Bryan, Al, Randy, Brett and Karl - it's very reassuring having you all looking over my shoulder.

    It's been a while since my last update, but although progress has been very slow, there has indeed been progress!

    With the keel and ribs re-stained to a more appropriate colour, I was able to return to building up the ship. To start, I copied an idea from Paul Smulder's excellent build log and taped my template to my glass plate, and then covered that with a sheet of baking paper. I then drew some reference lines for the placement of the keel supports and applied three thin strips of double-sided tape before positioning the keel supports in place.

    284 Ship 7

    With the keel supports held securely in place, I then added a drop of epoxy to the centre of each and placed the keel. In the picture below, you can see my method for ensuring that everything remained square while the epoxy set.

    285 Ship 8

    Once the keel was securely attached to the keel supports, I was able to start adding the frames/ribs. Again, pinching another idea from Paul's build log, I cut a pair of support strips to ensure the ends of the frames were at the same height. These are simply held with a clothes peg to provide a stable base. The tops of the frames are clamped to the top of the support strip while the glue dries. The “clamps” in this case were simply hairdressers sectioning clips – I found these had just the right amount of clamping pressure for the job.

    286 Ship 9

    It was tediously slow work to attach all the frames as I needed to wait for the glue to set up on each frame before moving on to the next. However, eventually they were all in place.

    287 Ship 10

    Support braces are then added to the fore side of the top of each frame. We begin by attaching a brace to the second frame from each end, again using the hair clips as clamps, and then a scrap piece of squared wood is used as a guide to ensure the levels are even.

    288 Ship 11

    The remaining braces were then added two at a time, using the longitudinal guide to ensure that they are all at the same level.

    289 Ship 12

    Once these braces were all in place, five more braces are added to the aft side of frames 1, 6, 11, 16 and 21. These braces will be part of the scaffolding support at a later stage in the build (once the ship has been placed in the diorama base).

    290 Ship 13

    We leave the ship for now and return to completing the dock pilings….

    Grant
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